MY INTERVIEW TONIGHT IS WITH CHRIS TOOKEY
My guest
tonight is an English film critic who has written for both the Sunday Telegraph
and the Daily Mail. Not one to follow the crowd, he frequently disagrees with
his contemporaries and has been known to be quite vocal in his criticism. But
that’s surely the job of a critic! All film companies dread owning one of
Tookey’s Turkeys!
Chris Tookey is always
interesting and can often be controversial. Tonight he will be Chris Tookey!
Chris, many thanks for joining us. Tell me, how did
you first get into journalism?
I first succumbed at Oxford, where I read
History and then Politics, Philosophy and Economics. I was first rock critic
and then Editor of Isis, the university magazine. When I left university, I had
a choice being a theatre director, a composer of musicals, a journalist or a
politician (I was a Liberal, by the way.) I’d been involved with all of these
at Oxford, at a reasonably professional level.
I
plumped for the theatre as I thought it would help me combine writing,
composing, directing and producing, but after two years I was given the chance
to move into television, initially producing and directing for ATV and then as
a freelance – which I managed to combine with writing ten musicals, all
produced professionally.
In
my spare time, I started doing interviews with well-known authors for Books and
Bookmen. As a result of that, I
was asked to review films on TV and then TV as a whole for the Sunday
Telegraph, which I managed to combine with my directing.
But
after a few years of that, Miriam Gross invited me to be the paper’s film
critic, which required me to attend screenings on Mondays and Tuesdays and
sometimes Fridays, so at that point I had to decide between journalism and
directing. Having already worked as a director for 13 years and become
dissatisfied with the kind of commissioning that was going on in TV, I chose
writing. Three years later, I was recruited by the Daily Mail to be their film critic, and a couple of
decades later here I still am. Although being a critic still strikes me as less
than wholly creative, I have used my spare time to write three novels,
which my agent is currently
trying to place with publishers.
Not the easiest thing in the worlkd, as all writers know only too well! The job of a film critic would seem to be the perfect
life for any film buff, but what are the down sides?
I’m
probably as much a books, theatre and music buff as I am a film fan. But yes,
it is mainly a pleasure to be paid to watch films – though there are times,
usually after seeing thirteen bad movies in a row, where it can remove the will
to live. It’s at that point where it’s only too possible to seize on a film
that’s only average and praise it to the skies. It’s such a relief.
The
other down side to being a critic is that everyone thinks they can be one.
Well, of course anyone can be a bad critic. To be a good one requires taste,
writing talent, brains, experience and negative capability (being able to see
things from multiple points of view, not only your own). Not enough people
realize that. It’s tiresome to be told you’re a moron online by people who
can’t spell or punctuate, and think Transformers 2 is a work of genius.
Some years ago you criticised the film Crash,
do you still feel that screen violence is desensitising?
I
know that screen violence is desensitising, because it’s desensitised me. That
doesn’t mean I’m going to become a copycat killer, but I’ve undoubtedly been
hardened to behaviour and violence that most people would find extremely
shocking, and rightly so. It’s quite difficult not to lose one’s moral
bearings.
My
objection to Crash was not so much moral as pragmatic. I’ve never been a big
fan of censorship, mainly because I’ve always mistrusted censorious people in
authority, but I was very much aware that the British Board of Film
Classification had traditionally refused to give an 18 certificate to movies
where non-consensual sex was involved, either to titillate the audience or to
suggest that it was somehow pleasurable for the victim. Until Crash, the most
famous example of that was Straw Dogs.
Crash
was all about people gaining sexual pleasure from pain, mutilation and death.
The masochistic victims were just as enthusiastic as the sadistic perpetrators. I didn’t
see then how the BBFC could possibly award it an 18 certificate under its own
guidelines, and I still don’t.
After
that decision, the flood-gates of sado-masochism opened, and we’ve had numerous
films come through which are far more more brutal and perverted: films like
Baise-Moi, Hostel, A
Serbian Film and The Human Centipede 2. And, of course, there’s been a whole
new genre of “torture porn”.
Hollywood
is fond of congratulating itself for films that supposedly encourage audiences
to do great things or become more liberal and tolerant. I’m sure we can all
think of films that have won awards for civic virtues, rather than artistic
ones.
I
think film-makers need to come clean on the fact that films also have the power
to influence society for ill. I am very much aware that children see lots of
films that they are psychologically ill-equipped to deal with, and I have no
doubt that violent films – and especially ones that involve sexual violence –
can, especially if they are viewed to the exclusion of other, more civilised
movies - have the harmful
effect of normalising bad behaviour for certain people, especially if they are
immature, psychologically damaged or just plain dumb.
Are you in favour of stronger screen censorship, or
more rigid viewing categories?
Essentially,
I’m in favour of stronger self-censorship by film-makers. I regard the most
irresponsibly pernicious films as a kind of environmental pollution. I wish
directors like Eli Roth (who’s behind the Hostel films) would stop, but sadly
they’re making too much easy money to give up now. Similarly, I think Quentin
Tarantino is a potentially brilliant writer-director who might achieve that
potential if he became less hung up on extreme violence to please the fanboys.
As a critic you have to watch all genres of film and
be objective, whereas the average film-goer tends to like a narrow field. Do
you find it easy leaving your personal tastes behind?
I
am anything but objective, and any critic who pretends to be objective is a
liar. No two people watch the same film. We’re all, to some extent, influenced
by our background, tastes and aspirations. I do try to be fair-minded and try
to watch films from three angles simultaneously. One is from my own, subjective
viewpoint. The second is from the film-makers’ point of view: what were they
trying to achieve, and how far did they succeed? The third angle is to try and
work out what the audience is for a certain film, even if it isn’t me. If I
have room, I usually attempt in my reviews to give some indication of what the
core audience for a film is. That’s because I’m writing for millions of people
who read the Mail, Mail Online or my website www.movie-film-review.com, whereas most of my
colleagues are writing for a few thousand, or even a few hundred.
As a private person, rather than a critic, what sort
of film do you love to see?
I
genuinely like the best films in every genre. I really liked The Cabin In the
Woods last year, because it was an intelligent slasher movie. And I liked Wild
Bill, even though it was that most tired of concepts, a British gangster film:
it simply struck me as one of the best in its genre. I enjoy anything that’s
talented.
But
I do have a soft spot for musicals and I was delighted that Les Miserables
turned out to be as good as it was. My favourite
musicals, however, have all been better on stage than on celluloid, so I would
love to see a revival of that genre, which would allow us to see and hear more
of the best musicals performed with present-day production values. I’m not
holding my breath, though, and I’m very happy to keep watching great thrillers
like LA Confidential, ground-breaking movies like Fight Club or Adaptation, or
imaginative fantasies like The Lord of the Rings.
The
important thing for a critic is to attend each film with the willingness to be
receptive. It’s heard to attend an Adam Sandler film with any degree of
optimism after witnessing the rest of his oeuvre, but honestly I do try.
What’s your favourite film of all time and favourite
actor?
I think the greatest movies have the
power always to move you. So Casablanca and it’s a Wonderful Life always work
for me. There are also a
few films that I think are great and hardly anyone else does. Those are often
comedies, and comedy is notoriously subjective. Here, I’m thinking of Tim
Burton’s Ed Wood, Stanley Donen’s Movie Movie and Isn’t She Great. I sincerely
think they’re wonderful films, funny and truthful about the human condition, but I don’t expect everyone to
agree with me. We’re all different, and that’s a very good thing.
Are you
disciplined as a journalistic writer with a set routine and preferred place to
write?
I’m extremely disciplined. I see movies Monday and Tuesday and write about them on Wednesday morning. There’s no time for writer’s block. I carry that discipline through to writing novels or musicals. I have never missed a deadline, and unlike my old pal Douglas Adams I would feel horribly guilty if I ever missed one. I never like to feel I’ve let anyone down.
I’m extremely disciplined. I see movies Monday and Tuesday and write about them on Wednesday morning. There’s no time for writer’s block. I carry that discipline through to writing novels or musicals. I have never missed a deadline, and unlike my old pal Douglas Adams I would feel horribly guilty if I ever missed one. I never like to feel I’ve let anyone down.
Many years ago you were very much involved in the musical Hard Times. Do you have any plans to get involved with the stage again?
Yes, I wrote, directed and co-produced Hard Times,
which I still feel deserved a much longer run than the 100 performances or so
it achieved in the West End. It’s good to know from the many letters we
received that many of those who did see it really loved it and came to see it
three or four times. It’s only one of eleven musicals I’ve written but I still
think it had some of the best songs and carried the most emotional punch. I am
writing another musical right now, based on the Arabian Nights. I’m enjoying
that and hope to get it on some day – though right now it’s on the back burner,
as I’m concentrating on completing my third novel.
So you write fiction?
Yes. My first book is called Superhero
and it’s a comic fantasy. Very English, it’s a combination of Mervin Peake and
P.G. Wodehouse, or a more grown-up J.K.Rowling. My second, The Trophy Hunter,
is a comic thriller about a footballer turned private investigator, who’s
addicted to the computer game Football Manager – hopefully, a bit like Raymond
Chandler meets Simon Brett. My third, Another Fine Mess, is another comic thriller. which
is a sequel to the first one and is about a killer who apparently targets film
critics. The one thing they
all have in common is that they’re all, I hope, funny. That’s because my
world-view is essentially ironic and comedic. I hope some brave soul will
publish them. And so does my agent.
If there was one thing you could change in the film
industry what would it be?
I’d
give everyone who makes films a greater sense of social responsibility. But it
ain’t gonna happen.
You’ve attended many film premieres. Do you have a
favourite moment from one of them?
I
hate film premieres as a rule. They go on forever because – rightly – the stars
want to meet their public and sign autographs. Good for them, but not so great
for the audience waiting for the film to start. Oddly enough, my fondest
memories are of two movies this year – Les Mis and Skyfall – because both films
far surpassed my expectations and, I think, the audience’s. It’s always a
pleasure to be at the birth of something great.
One last question. What is one thing would you like to achieve during the next
5 years?
I
wouldn’t mind being less often insulted by morons, but I genuinely enjoy doing
what I do. I’m extremely fortunate to feel fulfilled with both my job and the
work I do in my spare time, writing and composing. I also have a good family
life and friends, so really I’ve no cause for complaint.
Chris, it’s been a pleasure talking to you and thank you so much for your time, as well as for agreeing to meet my blog community.
Thank
you.
Very ibnteresting post, thanks guys. I find it hard enough to be a reviewer of books - and at least I can hide under an assumed name. To criticize something that has taken millions to make, and stars 'famous' actors is a bit of a responsibility. I agree with you about the lack of social responsibility completely - it's the same thing as those people who make exploitative videos for teenagers to view and then claim that it's not their duty to 'police' what others choose to view. And I agree, where money is the deciding factor, morality and ethics go out of the window. Maybe that's my age speaking?
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments, Carol and for reading the interview!That's not your age, it's common sense. We have a moral obligation to guide younger and more susceptible people. We do not have a right to offer them the means of moral, or physical destruction and then to deny all responsibility for what is done. The "Guns don't kill, people do." syndrome.
ReplyDeleteFrom Chris and myself, hanks again, Carol.
Richard
Thank you all. I enjoyed reading this very much. Since much of this is about film, I highly recommend the French fairly recent film The Intouchables as an example of something different and also uplifting.
ReplyDeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteSorry to be a pedant but during your very good interview with Chris Tookey you discussed the film Crash (the James Spader one) but you highlighted a poster from Crash (the Sandra Bullock one which deals with racism in Los Angeles and contains no sex scenes, consented or otherwise). Enjoy your interviews immensley though.
William Hancock
Hi William,
DeleteNot pedantic at all. You're absolutely right. My fault and certainly not Chris's. Thanks for pointing out my mistake!
I'm glad you enjoyde my interview with Chris and (hopefully) the others in my blog. I try to make the interviews very personal (not intrusive!) rather than asking the same generic questions each time, and Chris was wonderful at making his answers so informative and readable.
In the weeks to come I have interviews with one of the world's best-selling authors, a leading TV historian and author and a leading maker of TV factual series and author.
All the best
Richard